I got this chat transcript off one of the innumerable lists I'm on. I thought it was worth redistributing, as an example of an exchange between citizens of two emerging world powers, representative of conversations that happen every day all over the world, and yet seem to be completely off the radar of American media.
Items that struck me (aside from the dialogue being held in English): the Indian's skepticism about whether or not the U.S. ever actually landed on the moon, the Chinese woman's comments about good jobs in the U.S., the differing perspectives on Iraq, and the environmental consciousness.
Regards,
Thomas Leavitt
Maia: so, bollywood?
blackcranein: no
Maia: is that famous in india
Maia: ?
blackcranein: thats a capitalist industry runs with black money
blackcranein: i would rather do underground
Maia: what kind of films do you make?
blackcranein: docus
blackcranein: i am working on a film on Bombay
Maia: wow, i love documentaries so much
blackcranein: i move around with the camera and shoot every day
blackcranein: i will then make a film on the city and how it is opressive
Maia: cool,
Maia: mostly i watch national geographic
blackcranein: thats very problematic
blackcranein: its from the first world perspective
blackcranein: they show wildlife as some sex and thriller
blackcranein: interested in mating and violence of animals
Maia: but its what truly happened in the nature
blackcranein: i dont think so
Maia: its natural
blackcranein: they want to say survival of the fittest is natural and it should happen with humans also
Maia: yes, evolution
blackcranein: some people say darwinism is dangerous
blackcranein: in the name of evolution first world says that they are smarter and will rule the wortld
Maia: no not like that, evolution is a science
Maia: you are overreacted
blackcranein: animals do not accumulate, they hunt whatever they need for today and that is also natural
blackcranein: but humans accumulate and thats the problem with the world, the greed of humans
blackcranein: they should focus on the environment friendly ness of animals
Maia: that mostly happened in the 3rd world countries, i think
blackcranein: it happens all over the world
Maia: you cant say america is like this, they are doing good jobs
blackcranein: are u sure u are communist, they are killing innocents in iraq and afganistan
Maia: communist is in the sense of a nation's political strategy, and how we should progress, to change social structures, to be stronger
Maia: we china is also learning from america
blackcranein: u mean imperialist in national strategy and communist in the domestic sense
Maia: we hope to make good relationship with every country
blackcranein: why not with iraq and help them
blackcranein: and cuba
Maia: its none of china's business
Maia: if we do so
Maia: it would just cause troubles
blackcranein: i think u need to read lenin
blackcranein: the workers of the world unite
blackcranein: workers of the world are one against all interantionals capital
Maia: rightnow what we need is to pursue economic development, but not conflicts.
blackcranein: one which sees nature as resourse and exploits it
Maia: tahts the most important thing china needs
blackcranein: we need happiness and not goods
blackcranein: are u interested in reading some interesting stuff of what i am saying
Maia: i dont read those stuff, currently what we learn
blackcranein: go to www.swaraj.org/shikshantar and read their vision of the world
Maia: is DengXiaoping's theory
blackcranein: our education is fucked up
blackcranein: read mao
Maia: maoism is old for china
blackcranein: and sometimes communists have also taken environement badly
Maia: what we are learning is a better way that suitable to china
blackcranein: so lets invent new forms of humanism
blackcranein: what about all the nuclear disasters and flood in china causes by playing with environment
Maia: but the main spirit also came from maoism
Maia: we have noticed that
blackcranein: we have to evolve
Maia: although its late
blackcranein: the world has caused major disaster to the world in last 100 years
blackcranein: polluted the soil our rivers
blackcranein: and go on till we realsie that we cannot eat money
blackcranein: we need to reverse it
blackcranein: nature is a loan from future generations and we have to preserve for them
Maia: you know a lot
Maia: i should learn from you, lol
blackcranein: we all know a lot , just have to see around us
blackcranein: but read the site i just mentioned, i just met those people and they are really sensible
Maia: ok, i will, thanks for the link
blackcranein: i feel my school was the worse thing for me
blackcranein: it taught me a lot of nonsense
Maia: same here in china, what they taught are just vacant theoretic things
Maia: but not realistic
Maia: not applicable
blackcranein: it was the worst form of child labour in a way
blackcranein: i read maths by figures, my mother knew it by making dresss for me from a straight cloth and according to my size
blackcranein: school taught me that my native language is inferior and english is good
Maia: bullshit
Maia: every culture is good
Maia: india has very old culture
blackcranein: it is doing this all over the world
Maia: we should reserve it
blackcranein: western education is fuck all
blackcranein: it teaches us that our tradition is bad
blackcranein: now they have started looking at chinese medicne and fengshui
Maia: fengshui?? geeez
Maia: its all bullshit
blackcranein: why
blackcranein: is it bad
Maia: its cult
blackcranein: i dont think so
blackcranein: they make it a cult when the can sell it
blackcranein: but i think their must be some truth
Maia: nobody believes it rightnow
blackcranein: in west they are going mad after it
Maia: i dont know bout that, maybe they are crazy? lol
blackcranein: u know their is a theory that americans didnt go to moon and it was a drama, we believe them but dont trust our traditions
Maia: i dont belive those theories
blackcranein: i bleieve them
blackcranein: why didnt they go again
Maia: why SHOULD they go again
Maia: since its already successful
blackcranein: no why did they go to antarctic again and again
blackcranein: thats one reason why i think they are liars
Maia: because they need to do so, and go to the moon second time is not needful
blackcranein: coz they cant
blackcranein: they would have buy now taken the minerals or whatever or sold the moon
Maia: no need to waste money on unnecessary things
Maia: thousands of ppl involved in the apollo, do you think its funny to make such a lie?
Maia: cheating the whole world?
Maia: no need!!
blackcranein: thousand can go and kill innocents in iraq
Maia: after all, its racism caused all the trouble
Maia: and racism is human nature
Maia: have to admit it
blackcranein: u say this coz u are fed on national geographic
Maia: prob is we have to change it
Maia: to improve it
Maia: but not to hate
Maia: hatred just cause more troubles
Maia: and disasters
Maia: we need PEACE
Maia: dont be involved in the hatred circle
Maia: thats what we need
blackcranein: now u know why the channel is dangerous
blackcranein: the essentialism and darwinism
blackcranein: but u cant change it if u say it si human nature as we are humans and we will do natural things
blackcranein: i am not
Maia: human is not flawless, racism came up when you were born in a stronger nation
blackcranein: but plz for god sake dont say racism is natural
Maia: IT IS, you have to admit
Maia: im not saying everyone is a racist
Maia: but racism
blackcranein: if it is then as humans we have to do natural things only
Maia: is one of human nature
blackcranein: no its not
Maia: im not saying everyone is a racist
blackcranein: then capitalsim is also one and fascism is also one
blackcranein: then its not human not nature
Maia: yes of course
Maia: so that's why we have to change it, nothing is born perfect, including human
blackcranein: but dont call it natural
Maia: being evil is a human nature? of course it is
blackcranein: its not
Maia: it is
blackcranein: being good is natural and we have to bring it back
blackcranein: its not
blackcranein: its not
blackcranein: its not
Maia: ok
blackcranein:
blackcranein: sorry
blackcranein: u have the right to ur opinion
blackcranein: but i think its not
Maia: well, dont have to argue, although argument is a nature too
Maia: lol
Maia: so improve it
Maia: change it
Maia: so, i want to be a progressivist and leftist
blackcranein: we have to resolve conflict
blackcranein: u are progressive and leftist
blackcranein: and nice person and a beautiful human being
Maia: see? that is do what i wanted to say
Maia: you put it well
blackcranein: we are all children of mother earth
Maia: true